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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:31:02 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #947
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Mon, 22 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 947
Today's Topics:
Communications Quarterly , was Qs on no code FCC license and Hardware
CQ/Ham Radio Magazine history
FT530 Programming Guide
Going to Austria.
IC-970H use for AMSATS
learning CW
Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions
Radio Interface to Internet?
Rigs in Dish Washers
SSTV
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:31:06 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Communications Quarterly , was Qs on no code FCC license and Hardware
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX (wyn@ornl.gov) wrote:
: Well, they are doing it here. The rf shops are full of those contester rigs in
: for the sparkplug changeouts. One of the biggest problems was finding a cheap
: second source for those @#$%& overpriced HP diodes ;-)
: 73,
: C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX
Right! I can appreciate why someone might not feel confident or well
enough equipped to try to fault find in a current "contester rig", but
this is a simple soldering job, no fault finding or set-up needed.
Perhaps those shops filled with radios for diode swaps are evidence of
the progressive de-skilling of amateur radio? Or could it just be a
case of people now being more prepared to throw money at problems ?
It seems to me that folk used to be a lot more prepared to "Have a
go". I'll be pleased if we've left poverty behind, but I do hope that we
haven't left curiosity or skill behind.
There's a free market in RF semiconductors, and several sources of
PINs around the world. Seeking alternative parts is a long established
amateur tradition. There is some effort involved in finding a potential
part and in trying it out, but this can often give the seeker knowledge
and experience worth more than the savings on parts. Long period PIN
diodes are not really mainstream components, so price and availability
won't be wonderful, no matter who made them. There may be some parts
available from surplus dealers that could still be better than the
standard parts built into the radios.
That reply cheered me a little, maybe I'm pessimistic about the scale
of reading of technical atricles ?
Cheers,
David GM4ZNX
(Just personal thoughts and opinions)
------------------------------
Date: 22 Aug 94 08:43:06 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu!00tlzivney@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: CQ/Ham Radio Magazine history
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Gary is not quite accurate about CQ buying Ham Radio magazine to
temporarily boost their circulation by adding the HR subscribers -
I had a lifetime subscription to Ham Radio and received NO additional
issues of CQ - the publisher told me I should have purchased the
lifetime subscription to CQ (this at the Atlanta hamfest a few years
back).
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:07:16 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!venus!jupiter!pas@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: FT530 Programming Guide
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Folks: I've made a few updates to this document and am
posting it again. I hope some find it useful (I do!).
Peter
O Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
<^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
\/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
\ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
"Don't believe any advice you read"
How VE3ZXT programs his Yaesu FT530 HT
(These instructions are intended to help remind me on how I
program my FT530 and are not a substitute for reading the
manual!)
HINTS:
0. To turn the radio on, push and hold (for 1/2 a
second) the orange button on the left side.
Repeat this to turn it off.
1. If you get into a strange mode or display, hit PTT
as this usually clears it. The radio may display
"ERR" for a moment.
2. To switch from band to band (left to right and back),
use the "BAND" button.
3. If you want the backlight to stay on while using the
radio, enter FM -> LAMP. The LAMP button is just
below the PTT button. Having the light on can make
programming quite a bit easier.
4. The radio is capable of any combination of scanning,
searching or being idle on both bands. For example,
one can be scanning on the left side and carrying on a
QSO on the right side. To make the radio scan, place
the radio on any channel (push MR until the channel
indicator does not have multiple small arrows) and
then push and hold either arrow button. It is also
possible to make the radio alternate scan (scan on the
left, then right, then left, ...). The radio is also
capable of receiving any mixture of VHF and UHF on
either side. If the PLL is unable to lock, the
frequency display will flash.
5. Push the Monitor (Burst) button (above PTT) to break
squelch momentarily. Push and hold the same when the
radio is off to see the seconds display on the clock.
6. Whenever you make a change to the programming of a
channel (frequency, offset frequency, offset
direction, CTCSS frequency, Tone squelch enable, Tone
encode enable, mode AM or FM), it is necessary to save
that channel again to save the changes. As in normal
programming, push and hold FM for two seconds, then
hit FM again. That will store the current settings in
the current channel.
PROGRAMMING GUIDE:
0. Ensure the radio has suitable power and the lithium
battery installed.
1. Reset the radio by holding the MR and VFO buttons
as you power up the radio. This will clear all
settings, time, channels, etc.
2. Enable the extended receive and transmit modifications
by holding both arrow keys while powering up the radio
again. Note: extended Rx and Tx also require a
hardware modification not discussed here. This mod
reportedly allows for reception of 110-180, 300-500,
800-950 MHz and transmission of 140-150, 430-450 MHz
although I haven't tried these to confirm the
extents.
3. Set the clock: FM -> REV to see the clock
FM to go into set mode
(then see page 51 of the manual)
Hint: set the radio in UTC to avoid time zone and
time change hassles.
4. Enable ARS (Automatic Repeater Shift) on both bands.
This will automatically set the repeater offset to the
correct frequency count and direction +/- when you
program in a frequency. The radio understands the
basic amateur bandplan and will not set an offset if
you enter a simplex frequency (e.g 146.520).
FM -> 0 -> 6 -> FM -> 6
and again for the other band
FM -> 0 -> 6 -> FM -> 6
5. Set the alternate display (when only working one band)
to display battery voltage (a nice feature IMHO!):
FM -> 0 -> FM -> BAND
and again
FM -> 0 -> FM -> BAND
Alternative display options include blank (---) and clock.
6. Set transmitter default power to high:
FM -> 3
7. Set scan resume mode on both bands to "P" for pause
(as opposed to "5" which causes the radio to continue
scanning after pausing five seconds on one signal):
FM -> 7 -> FM -> 7
and again for the other band
FM -> 7 -> FM -> 7
8. Set automatic power off if desired:
FM -> 0 -> 3 -> 3
This feature can be useful if you want to conserve
battery power or a pain if you are using the radio as
a scanner or for monitoring packet. Regardless of
configuration, the radio will shut itself off when
battery voltage reaches near 5.5 volts, eliminating the
possibility of over-discharging the nicads. As the
radio nears this shutdown condition, the display will
alternate between normal functions and a battery
voltage display.
When automatic power off is enabled and the radio is
about to shut itself off, it will play a warning medley
one minute before shutdown. The default medley is a
cute musical passage I detest. Fortunately, one can
change this warning song. Refer to page 53 of the
manual on how to enable a custom tone sequence and page
46 on how to program it in (it is the tone sequence in
autodial memory number 1).
9. Set ABS to the desired ratio. ABS is the Automatic
Battery Saver and causes the radio to go into a low-
power consumption sleep mode if it is not used for a
few seconds. In this mode, the radio remains
inactive (conserving power) except for periodic 30
millisecond samples of the frequency being
monitored. ABS may cause you to miss the first
split second of a transmission and can cause problems
for the same reason when the radio is being used for
packet. Otherwise, it is a good tool. If I had the
money, my car would have ABS too (but that is a
different kind :-) To set ABS, enter:
FM -> 4
and then one of the following keys
1 for 10ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
2 for 20ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
3 for 40ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
4 for 80ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
5 for 160ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
6 for 320ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
7 for 640ms sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
8 for 1.28s sleep, 30ms sample duty cycle
9 for automatic ratio based on recent usage
0 for ABS off
10. If desired, enable Tx Save feature. This feature
will adjust transmitted power based on the signal
strength of the incoming reception. As a rule,
amateurs should always be using the minimum power
necessary to maintain their QSO. This is a lazy
approach. To enable Tx Save:
FM -> 0 -> 4
and repeat for the other band
FM -> 0 -> 4
11. Program in your favorite frequencies in all the
channels. There are 41 per band: 38 channels plus
one CALL channel plus one U (upper channel) plus one L
(lower channel). If you have enabled the extended
receive and transmit, you will find that a wide range
of UHF and VHF frequencies can be intermixed on each
side. It is also possible to enter 0.8 GHz
frequencies in the UHF side! If the frequency
display is flashing, the PLL has unlocked and the
radio is unable to tune that frequency.
The basic sequence to enter a frequency in a
channel is:
VFO enter into either VFO on the
band desired
146940 to enter 146.940 MHz
FM (hold for two seconds)
(use arrow keys or dial to select
channel to store frequency in)
FM
The frequency is now stored. After a
second or two, the radio mode returns
to the VFO. Repeat this process as
necessary to enter all frequencies.
Refer to the manual on the programming of the CALL, L
and U channels. These are used for a quick recall of
the CALL frequency, Lower limit and Upper limit when
searching, respectively. Note that if a CTCSS tone
is stored in a U or L channel, that tone will be used
for decoding during search mode if searching is
initiated from that channel.
To set a CTCSS decode frequency on a given channel:
set radio on that channel
FM -> 2
turn dial to desired PL tone
2
It is then necessary to enable tone decode on that
frequency. To do this, repeat FM -> 1 until TSQ
appears in the display (which indicates Tone Squelch
is enabled).
Refer to the manual on setting a decode frequency or
scanning for a decode frequency.
Don't forget to save any channel options into memory
before moving on to some other programming function.
In other words, if you enable tone decode on a given
channel, you must save that channel again to the memory
location in order to save the tone decode setting.
Otherwise, the minute you move off that channel, the
tone decode setting is forgotten.
To set a CALL channel frequency:
VFO enter into either VFO on the
band desired
set frequency, offset and CTCSS tone
FM (hold for two seconds)
CALL
The radio is capable of receiving in AM mode and has
extended receive capability down into the aircraft
band. Although not discussed in the manual, the
radio can store the mode (AM or FM) in each channel.
To store a frequency in AM mode:
VFO enter into either VFO on the
band desired
set frequency
FM -> 0 -> FM -> VFO (enables AM mode)
FM (hold for two seconds)
use arrows or dial to select channel
FM
Note: the VFO will remain in AM mode until you enter the
sequence again (FM -> 0 -> FM -> VFO) or the radio is
made to listen to an FM channel. Remember to return
the VFO to FM mode after setting an AM station otherwise
you may end up programming all remaining channels in AM
mode (annoying!).
Important: If you enter any frequency other than an
amateur radio frequency, make sure you manually set the
offset to - or + so that if you are listening to the
frequency and accidentally PTT, you will not transmit
on that frequency (e.g. a police frequency!).
12. Set IBS (Intelligent Band Select) if desired. This
makes the radio automatically switch to the side, when
you PTT, that last had a transmission. To set:
FM -> 0 -> BAND
Note: both bands must be displayed to set IBS.
13. Set DTMF keypad transmit hang time to on:
FM -> 0 -> FM -> 1
This makes it possible to enter a DTMF number sequence
(e.g. a phone number during an autopatch operation)
without having to hold PTT beyond entering the first
digit.
Please send suggestions/corrections to me,
73, Peter
O Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
<^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
\/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
\ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
"Don't believe any advice you read"
------------------------------
Date: 22 Aug 1994 09:28:08 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Going to Austria.
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'm going in September for ten days - what do I need to do in order
to take/use my 2m ht.
Garen, N5RUK
gke0837@tamsun.tamu.edu
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Date: 22 Aug 94 15:24:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: IC-970H use for AMSATS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Is anyone using the IC-970 for 9600 baud AMSAT work, and if so, what
modifications are required?
I contacted ICOM customer service and got the following reply:
>Sir,
>
>The IC-970 was developed before 9600 baud packet was on the market.
>Therefore the radio was not designed with the capability of operation with
>9600 baud packet. The IC-970 will work on the AMSAT but not on PACSAT, due
>to the switching speed needed to operate 9600 baud packet.
>
>We do not have factory authorized modifications for the radio outside of the
>original design of the Radio.
>
>73's Ray, KB5KCL
>
It seems hard for me to believe that radio manufacturers are ignoring 9600
baud compatability as much as they are ... the reviews I have read on the new
IC-820 also say that it is also not 9600 baud SAT compatible.
I guess I need to start considering other units for my next purchase ...
any recommendations from other users ???
Thanks
Art Jeyes
Art.Jeyes@jhuapl.edu
------------------------------
Date: 22 Aug 94 14:49:43 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: learning CW
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Derek,
Interesting that you brought this up. I happened to be wondering
the same thing...so I took an informal poll at a VEC testing
session this past weekend. Of the folks I talked to, everyone
that used only computer generated CW said that they had trouble
for the first couple of QSOs after passing their 5 or 13 wpm
code tests. One guy claimed that he could copy 25 wpm solid with
computer generated code, but, on the air could only copy about
15wpm or so. So at least from the small population that I talked
to it seems that your observation is correct.
cheers - Warren
--
Warren E. Lewis saswel@unx.sas.com
Technical Support Division (919) 677-8001 x6542
SAS Institute Inc. PP-ASEL
Cary, NC KD4YRN DOD#0021
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 13:50:38 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!venus!pas@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Aug20.140335.9766@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
|> In article <333n3t$jqf@nic-nac.CSU.net> g9153402@huey.csun.edu (Berton Corson) writes:
|> >But if, and when, digital services become the standard, will that make
|> >our scanners next to worthless, with nothing left to scan?
|>
|> It's illegal to scan cellular *now*, you're supposed to use your scanner
|> to scan transmissions that are legal to intercept such as unscrambled
|> public safety and amateur.
|> Gary
Gary: you dodged the question! Park the political
correctness and stay technical! Your insight is good; I
have several printouts at home that are your posts
(lightning protection and SWR arguments). There is
nothing wrong with _talking_ about scanning cellular phone
calls. And plus, it is entirely legal.
In Canada.
To answer the reader's question: scanners are able to
receive an incredibly large number of transmissions:
marine, aircraft, public safety, search and rescue, fire,
taxi, security, Mick Jagger's wireless microphone, amatuer
radio, satelites, ambulance, public weather stations,
military operations, air shows, cordless phones, drug
busters and the list goes on. As services go digital over
the next couple of decades, today's scanners will slowly
become less versatile. Don't hold your breath though...
these things take a lot of time.
Peter
o Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923
<^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104
\/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca
\ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY
"Don't believe any advice you read"
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 12:52:30 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Radio Interface to Internet?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <sethrCux0F9.1B2@netcom.com> sethr@netcom.com (Seth Russell) writes:
>Ok this might be a really dumb question - but I am going to ask it anyway.
>
>If one needed to download truly large files from the Internet (say in the
>range of 100 files of 50 megs each every day) - then the first thing that
>jumps to mind is - direct connect and bring in a T1 trunk from the *phone
>company* and lease it for about $900 per month - right?
>
>Is this actually the most economical way to do it? Couldn't an enterprising
>network provider who is already hooked up to the net just interface with a
>radio transmitter that could put data on the air waves and allow anyone with a
>receiver/modem to pick it up for the cost of the equipment and the cost
>to the network provider? Hey I told you it was a dumb question before
>you started reading!
It's technically feasible. The questions that have to be answered
though are who pays, how much, and on whose spectrum? Businesses
aren't going to provide this service for just the cost of the
equipment, they want to make a profit on this value added service.
Liveline produces a weather product for TV broadcasters. They
distribute the product this way. You call them on landline with
a list of desired weather product (maps), and they queue that
up on their broadcast server and send it digitally encoded via
geosync satellite transponder. The product you order is coded
to activate your decoding box, and is downloaded into your
forecast computers. They charge for the map data, and that
has the cost of transmission rolled into it. Somebody has to
pay the geosync satellite operator for transponder time, somebody
has to amortize, maintain, and operate the uplink station, and all
those somebodies want to make a living at it.
Broadcasters are looking into the broadcast server business.
With the coming digital HDTV broadcasts, there is going to
be excess capacity in the data stream. There are several
proposals for selling this excess capacity for broadcast data
services. And of course there are already stock quote services
(and paging) broadcast (encrypted) on subcarriers of FM broadcast
stations. The user pays a fee that covers the data, and the
transmission.
No one is going to do it for just cost of equipment any more
than the telcos are going to give you a T1 just for cost of
equipment. The telco's copper is already a sunk cost. It costs
them no more to give you dialtone than it does to carry a live
call, but they still charge you per minute. That's because they
want to turn a buck off you. It's the same for broadcast servers,
they want to turn a buck off you. They don't have the copper
cost of the telcos, but they have other costs, such as the
typical $12,000 a month electric bill for their transmitter.
Then there's the question of available spectrum. There's only
a limited amount of spectrum space, and there are lots of
different demands for it's use. For a broadcast service to
be economical, it has to reach enough customers with product
they want in order to spread the costs enough to be competitive
with switched point to point telco service.
For regular broadcasters, the magic number is 2.5 cents per viewer
per minute, or about $1080 per viewer per month. That's higher than
a leased T1 monthly charge (but of course it includes product cost
as well as transmission cost). With the much lower number of people
consuming a data product being broadcast, the price point is likely
considerably higher for a dedicated broadcast data server. If that
cost can be made *incremental* to the existing broadcast, it is
likely to be small enough to be competitive with switched services.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
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Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:20:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Rigs in Dish Washers
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Many many years ago before anyone could afford a dishwasher (or maybe
before they were invented) we used to take the old nasty cab radios we
were trying to modify to the car wash and CAREFULLY spray them out with
the high pressure hot water hose. We would only use the soap spray on
the pieces of the cases that did not contain components.
---------------------
Dan Vestal
vestal.dan@gtefsd.com
---------------------
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 07:45:24
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!metro.atlanta.com!mhv.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@@.
Subject: SSTV
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The subject of slow scan tv will be the topic of discussion on this week's
Ham Radio & More show. It features John Langner, WB2OSZ, of
Absolute Value Systems as the show's guest. So be sure to tune into this
week's show, 8/28/94.
Ham Radio & More is heard on the Talk America Network in over 20 cities
and via satellite on spacenet 3, transponder 9, 6.8 audio. The listener
call in line is 1-800-298-talk, and for more info call 602-241-1510.
73, Len, KB7LPW
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Date: 22 Aug 94 14:50:10 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: subscribe
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Dear OM,
could I get more info on the services you provide for hams? What topics are
covered, is there a conference going on, interesting files etc...
Thanks,
Peter - ON6TT.
p_casier@ub4b.eunet.be
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 07:39:35
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!metro.atlanta.com!mhv.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CuunEJ.KHo@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, <1994Aug21.120025.1@aspen.uml.edu>, <339v43$rbf@shore.shore.net>46.phx
Subject : Re: Why Some people hate Wayne Green
>I have been a 73 reader since the mid Sixties and have found Wayne Green
>W2NSD/2 interesting, entertaining and controversial. He's Ham Radio's
>original "Bad Boy". Every organized effort humans involve themselves in
>should have a "devil's advocate" or whatever you wish to call it.
>
>Two political parties are better than one. The ARRL is necessary as a
>lobby group to keep the Bureaucrats in DC from taking our bands away from
>us ( especially the VHF-UHF bands which are jealously coveted by the two-way
>radio industry. Don't forget the 220MHz band that UPS spent mucho bucks
>to get from us and doesn't even use!) In my opinion, Wayne is and has
>been the guy that keeps the League on its toes.
>I've heard Wayne Green speak on several occasions at hamfests and he
>always draws a huge crowd. Many people criticize him for all kinds of
>reasons. I don't always agree with his views, but he certainly makes the
>political side of our hobby colorful and interesting.
And Wayne Green will be the guest on the Ham Radio & More show on
October 30, 1994. Make plans to hear this POSITIVE show.
73, Len, KB7LPW
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